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Space Digest                Sat,  8 May 93       Volume 16 : Issue 544

Today's Topics:
                         Boom!  Whoosh......
                       Heard MIR on my scanner
         HST Servicing Mission Scheduled for 11 Days (2 msgs)
     [e-mail]? (Re: DRAG-FREE SATELLITES)
                   landing at Edwards vs. the Cape
                          Level 5? (2 msgs)
              Pat and the Big Dan  eye to eye. (2 msgs)
                    Philosophy Quest.  How Boldly?
           Science Fiction (was Re: STS-1 DISASTER/COVERUP)
                     Shuttle Landings in Florida
                   Twin paradox and speed of light
                             UNSUB SPACE
                         Vandalizing the Sky
             VISAS FOR ASTRONAUTS AFTER AN ABORT (2 msgs)
      Will NASA's Mars Observer Image the Face on Mars? (2 msgs)

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 16:56:18 GMT
From: "Simon E. Booth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Boom!  Whoosh......
Newsgroups: sci.space

all this talk reminds me of some rather unique forms of advertising I've
seen around here over the past few years.  some examples:

In May 1988 the Sea World of Texas park opened up here in San Antonio.
So to celebrate, Southwest Airlines had at least one of its Boeing 737's
(flying cattle trains according to people I know who have flown them!)
painted in black and white markings to resemble a killer whale.

Looks pretty funny when seen on the ground....

The blimp operated by Sea World is also decorated in a similar fashion.

In the fall of 1990 there was a hot air balloon show here for a few days,
and although most of the balloons were conventional, we also saw one in the
shape of a giant Nike (?) sneaker and another one in the shape of a huge
flying Ray-O-Vac battery.


So, I guess I'm not really supprised by the prospect of a huge orbital
Coke can flying overhead.

Another way to get sponsors for a commercial space flight is to sell
ad space on the outside of a space vehicle.  It would look like an
Indy race car......

:-)

Simon

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 17:00:32 GMT
From: "William K. McFadden" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Heard MIR on my scanner
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur,rec.radio.shortwave,sci.space,alt.radio.scanner

I heard MIR on my scanner (PRO-2006 using built-in whip, 145.55 MHz) last
week and would like to know where to send my reception report for a QSL
card.  Thanks!

--
Bill McFadden    Tektronix, Inc.  P.O. Box 500  MS 58-639  Beaverton, OR  97077
[e-mail], ...!tektronix!tv.tv.tek.com!bill      Phone: [phone]
How can I prove I am not crazy to people who are?

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 14:46:25 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: HST Servicing Mission Scheduled for 11 Days
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.space.shuttle,sci.astro

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] writes:

>   WHAT reboost????  How did anyone get the idea that the servicing
> mission involves a reboost????  Please, some facts here - otherwise
> this thread is whistling into a vacuum.
> ...
>
>
> Wm. Hathaway
> Baltimore MD


I have finally been informed this morning that a reboost IS a low
priority option on the servicing mission, pending time and fuel
availabilty.  See, the system DOES work - keep asking the questions
enough times and some one will come up with an answer.  (Now how
did so many other people "know" this well before the backroom
here get clued in?  - We're the ones who NEED to know where it
is to perform the observation scheduling....)

Wm. Hathaway
Baltimore MD

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 18:54:46 GMT
From: fred j mccall 575-3539 <[e-mail]>
Subject: HST Servicing Mission Scheduled for 11 Days
Newsgroups: sci.space,sci.space.shuttle,sci.astro

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

>In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>> In <1s60eg$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Pat) writes:
>>
>>>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:

>..

>> Except, of course, that you've now wasted a flight plus all that
>> development money when you have a perfectly good way to do the reboost
>> in hand already.
>>
>  WHAT reboost????  How did anyone get the idea that the servicing
>mission involves a reboost????  Please, some facts here - otherwise
>this thread is whistling into a vacuum.

The reboost they're going to eventually have to do, unless they plan
to let HST splash down in the middle of the Outback someday.  If you
look, you will see that neither of the notes in question said anything
about a reboost *this flight*.

Chill, Will.  There's nothing here requiring a plethora of punctuation
marks!!!!!!   Where did you get the idea that either of the notes
you've elected to respond to said anything about the current servicing
mission involving a reboost?????



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Date: 7 May 1993 16:54:53 GMT
From: Isaac Kuo <[e-mail]>
Subject: [e-mail]? (Re: DRAG-FREE SATELLITES)
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Isaac Kuo) writes:
> 153/764
>Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.

>Hi,

>To all:  Sorry for the flame-bait.  I spoke too hastily at first, and after a
    [stuff _I_ wrote deleted]
>--
>*Isaac Kuo -->[e-mail]<--       *       ___
>*                            * _____/_o_\_____
>*    Who am I?  Where am I?  What do        *(==(/_______\)==)
>*    I do?  The address says it all.        * \==\/     \/==/

What's going on here?  Who IS [e-mail]?  Is he trying
to impersonate me?  The address is far to different from my own to be anything
but a deliberate forgery...

I have a feeling that I won't be enlightenned by a "finger"...
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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 10:47:16 MST
From: "Richard Schroeppel" <[e-mail]>
Subject: landing at Edwards vs. the Cape

>   Personally, in this case I suspect that operational expediency is being
    given a bit more weight than it really should get.  At eight flights a
    year, I don't think it would cripple the program to land at the Cape
    only when Edwards is unavailable... and that would be a better policy.

Are you including the ferry-back risk in your assessment?
Moving the vehicle back to the Cape requires a couple of takeoffs and
landings, and they've had to work around a lot of bad weather in Texas.

Rich Schroeppel  [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 7 May 93 08:50:55 CDT
From: Bret Wingert <[e-mail]>
Subject: Level 5?
Newsgroups: sci.space

In <spiegl.736673114@marble> Mark Spiegl writes:
>[e-mail] (Bret Wingert) writes:
>
>
>Pardon my ignorance with this program, but can you provide some project
>specifics: number of lines of code, staff size or staff months to
>implement.

Recent Stats:
2.2 million lines of code delivered
About 100 folks working Requirements, Development, Test, IV&V, Mission
       support, etc.(this has varied during the program)
Typical major release about once per year with 30KSLOCs +/-
8 or more flights supported each year requiring the reconfiguration
       of approximately 8000 parameters each time

I suspect (admittedly unsubstantiated though) that commercial
>projects are much more market driven and do not have the time/staff
>luxuries of government programs. That is, a difference of just six short
>months frequently defines which companies make the profits and which bust.
>A lot of good it does to deliver a zero defect product if your competition
>already has won the lions portion of the market.

Granted our standard cycle is longer than many in the commercial
marketplace.  However, our customers are some of the most demanding.
Last year during STS-49, we produced software changes to support the
Rendevous with the Intelsat.  This was accomplished in a matter
of hours and is not atypical of a flight support response.  We follow
the SAME PROCESS for a time critical situation as for one that's not.

Point is, a good process is NOT incompatible with responsiveness and
productivity.  The payoff is higher quality in the field (less support
cost) and greater customer satisfaction AFTER an ontime delivery.

I agree that if a competitor can deliver a higher quality product
faster to market, you lose.  But, if a repeatable process allows
you to consistently produce a higher quality product that meets
your markets needs, you'll succeed.



Bret Wingert
[e-mail]

(713)-282-7534
FAX: [phone]

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 18:15:23 GMT
From: fred j mccall 575-3539 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Level 5?
Newsgroups: sci.space

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bret Wingert) writes:

>            <[e-mail]>

>In <[e-mail]> Greg Stewart-Nicholls writes:
>> How does this structure deal with those capable of producing working
>>software on time, within budget, but don't have a 'process' ????
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------

>Typically, a case such as yours is a small group of folks with strong
>domain expertise.  There is a "process" but it is just understood by
>the group.  Loss of a team member can affect the performance of the
>team.

Also, maintenance of the final result often becomes a nightmare after
the small, tight team moves on to other, fresh endeavors.  Think about
what part of the typical software lifecycle costs is development and
which part is maintenance.  Given the relative budget shares through
the lifecycle, it makes sense to optimize the maintenance part, even
if that imposes some costs and constraints on the initial development
team.

Of course, if you never plan to change the software, add features, or
fix bugs, this isn't a problem.  It also isn't a problem if you can
rely on continuity of the development team for the life of the
product.

--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Date: 5 May 1993 21:01:18 -0400
From: Pat <[e-mail]>
Subject: Pat and the Big Dan  eye to eye.
Newsgroups: sci.space

Bill Higgins,  you would have been proud.

Living in Washington DC  has many drawbacks,  but one advantage
is that one has an oppurtunity to run into  government leaders
at teh strangest places.

Dan Goldin was the guest speaker at teh AIAA, so I went down to hear
him speak.  after a very over-priced lunch,  he gave his address.

it was the better faster cheaper speech,  with mentions from
archimedes about using levers to pry planets.  he did mention
that a new industry coalition is forming the national spacelifter
consortium, formed of 5 companies.  he didn't mention
names but i heard they were (Lockheed, GD, martin, rockwell &trw?)

he spoke about letting price outweigh performance and let
industry build vehicles rather then NASA control every aspect
of the contractors.

mostly stuff you heard before, then he took questions.

Me: "dr, goldin,  i am glad to see you here,  a number of us,
had written the president, encouraging him to let you carry
through your philosophy of better cheaper and faster.  I am glad
that we may have contributed in some way to your speaking today.
<laughter>
I was wondering given your emphasis in better, cheaper, faster, and the new spacelifter
competition, and the consortium,  how do you feel about SSTO and the
DC-X"?

Him:" Well, I too am very glad to be speaking here today
<laughter>
I encourage industry to come with what they feel to be the
best concept vehicle at the best price,  be that  improved
ELV's, or SSTO  or winged vehicles.  I don't want to say,
here is MY toy,  go out and build it.  I'd like to see
industry come to us, and say,  here is our best effort,
what can we fly for you."

In essence, he seemed lukewarm to the DC-X  project itself,
which  is looking for on-going support funding.  but if it
can deliver,  he'll use it.

I shook hands later with Goldin, and he seemed touched that I
had written the Bill Man  and put in some support for him.

I wish i had asked a question about ongoing magellan
funding,  but that seemed a little too dry.

pat

ps  the McDac guys all  cornered me at the bar later and
wanted to know who paid me to ask the question.  they thought
I had been a gift from above.

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Date: 7 May 93 12:21:06 -0600
From: Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey <[e-mail]>
Subject: Pat and the Big Dan  eye to eye.
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <1s9o0u$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Pat) writes:
> Bill Higgins,  you would have been proud.

I *am* proud of you, Pat.

[account of Pat going mano-a-mano with Goldin deleted]

> ps  the McDac guys all  cornered me at the bar later and
> wanted to know who paid me to ask the question.  they thought
> I had been a gift from above.

Is there money available for this sort of thing?  Maybe you have a
career ahead as a professional question-asker...  get money from the
executives of big companies, travel around to public meetings and ask
strategic questions from the audience.

How come I've never seen this advertised on a matchbook cover?

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Date: 5 May 1993 20:46:59 -0400
From: Pat <[e-mail]>
Subject: Philosophy Quest.  How Boldly?
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Doug Loss) writes:
|   What about the great Chinese trading expedition of the middle ages?
|I'm a bit hazy on the details, but I think the Emperor commanded a
|sailing expediton of hundreds of ships to travel east across the Indian
                        ^^^^^^^
I don't think so, tim.

>Ocean to explore.  It contacted African and Arabian civilizations (and
>probably Indian too), then sailed home.  The decision from the Emperor
>(or the bureaucracy) was that there was nothing to be gained from
>continuing this venture.  China then went into a period of isolation


China was immensely isolationist  before the mongol conquest,
after the collapse of the mongol empire  they sought to
purge their nation of foreign influences.  the great wall
built during the 13th century was just part of the mindset.

the boxer rebellion during the 1860's was designed to purge
china of impure foreigners.   The cultural revolution
of 1960  was another period of anti-foreign  sentiment.

like japan,  they have been very isolationsist for most
of their cultural life.

pat

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Date: 7 May 1993 15:10:50 GMT
From: "David B. Lapadula" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Science Fiction (was Re: STS-1 DISASTER/COVERUP)
Newsgroups: sci.space

Bruce T. Harvey ([e-mail]) wrote:
: in article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says:
: > IMPORTANT-INFO:

: Not.

: Well, we know by the control-Z at the end of the article that the poster
: is using either a DOS or a CP/M machine.  If it weren't for the disk
: space used, I'd enjoy the reading.  However, at this point, I'd like to
: see some new chapters in this fiction, as all of this is old hat, now.
: Either publish the science fiction or move on to a different genre.

Well, I, for one, really don't think SF (if that's what the author hopefully
believes it is) should be posted under ANY of the "SCI." news groups...

Dave Lapadula

~r ~/renstim

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 15:27:46 GMT
From: Henry Spencer <[e-mail]>
Subject: Shuttle Landings in Florida
Newsgroups: sci.space

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Phil G. Fraering) writes:
>Why don't they land at White Sands, New Mexico any more?

They've only landed there once -- when both the Cape and Edwards had
unacceptable weather -- and that one experience was enough to make them
avoid it unless they really have no choice.  White Sands, it turns out,
has fine airborne dust blowing around much of the time... and they had
a hell of a time getting the dust cleaned out of all the nooks and
crannies of the orbiter.

It's only a secondary landing site anyway, since it lacks some of the
facilities (like the hoist-the-orbiter-onto-the-747 rig) that are needed
for efficient handling of a landing.  The dust problem just adds insult
to injury.
--
SVR4 resembles a high-speed collision   | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
between SVR3 and SunOS.    - Dick Dunn  |  [e-mail]  utzoo!henry

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 13:24:55 EDT
From: Sholom Cohen <[e-mail]>
Subject: Twin paradox and speed of light
Newsgroups: sci.space

Probably another naive question from a non-physicist, but here goes.

If time slows down as we approach the velocity of light, what does
velocity mean?  It would seem that, relative to the light, time is not
changing, so there would be no unit of time over which to measure distance.

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Date: Fri, 07 May 93 09:52:39 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Franklin O'Donnell)
Subject: UNSUB SPACE

UNSUB SPACE

(Sorry for sending to this address, but mail to
[e-mail] seems to be ignored.)

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 19:26:40 GMT
From: fred j mccall 575-3539 <[e-mail]>
Subject: Vandalizing the Sky
Newsgroups: sci.space

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Garrett Wollman) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]>
>[e-mail] (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:

>>Distribution: sci

>There is no such distribution, and so your article was dropped by a
>growing number of standards-conforming news transports throughout the
>network.

I'm aware there is no such distribution and I did not set it that way.
In point of fact, my default distribution is set to 'world', and since
the article I responded to had no distribution, I have no idea why
mine showed up with 'sci' on it.  It would appear that some system
'changed' it for me.

>>Uh, *which* pseudo-justification?  The 'keep the sky pure' folks want
>>to prevent the folks launching this mission from getting the
>>advertising revenues.  Seems like they ought to have to make that up,
>>and *not* out of *MY* tax dollars, either.

>To paraphrase:

>The `keep the streets safe' folks want to prevent the folks who want
>to build a 100-store shopping mall from putting their only entrance on
>a residential street.  Seems like they ought to have to build a new
>road for the shopping mall developers, and *not* out of *MY* tax
>dollars, either.

>Are you opposed to zoning, too, Fred?

Given your description, yes, I think I would be opposed to that sort
of zoning.  Seems if the area was zoned for the mall they could put
their exit anyplace they wanted onto a public street.  Can you say
'reductio ad absurdem' and 'inappropriate analogy'?  Yeah, I thought
you could.

>-GAWollman

>PS: I'm happy to live in billboard-free Vermont, and I want to keep
>it that way.

That's nice.  Would you be happy to give up everything in your life
that is produced by or developed with help from things that you would
appear to me to disapprove of?  After all, we must stand in the way of
any advancement until we can achieve perfect safety and zero impact on
the most recalcitrant luddite.

--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 15:35:56 GMT
From: Brian Day <[e-mail]>
Subject: Visas for astronauts after an abort
Newsgroups: sci.space

[e-mail] (David M. Faubert) writes:

>In the short time the astronauts are performing an emergency landing they
>must fill out a landing card and state the purpose of their visit. Usually,
>this will make customs that much less painful for officials and astronauts
>alike.

Do they have to pay import duties on, say, a Spacelab ?

bd
--
Brian Day                                       [e-mail]
New Technology, Inc.                            [phone]
Mission Software Development Division           Opinions are my own -

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 18:43:56 GMT
From: fred j mccall 575-3539 <[e-mail]>
Subject: VISAS FOR ASTRONAUTS AFTER AN ABORT
Newsgroups: sci.space

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Adam R. brody ) writes:

> 11000/764 153/764
>Organization: NASA Ames Research Center

>[e-mail] (Claudio Oliveira Egalon) writes:

>>I have a question that has been ringing in my
>>head for a while. What if after a launch, there is
>>one of these nasty aborts and the Shuttle has
>>to land in a foreign country (Spain or Morroco).
>>Do the astronauts need a visa for staying there
>>or NASA has some kind of special arrangement
>>with the governments of these countries???

>>[e-mail]

>>Claudio Oliveira Egalon

>I've read that the crews' passports are kept in a pouch at launch, ready
>to be flown to an abort landing site.  I always thought that pretty strange
>since it would be pretty clear and documented in the media who these people
>are and from whence they came.  This issue invites further questions:
>When the President flys overseas, does he, and those with him carry
>passports.  What about military people?  It must have been a nightmare
>having 100,000 passports for US GIs in the Persian Gulf!

Well, I can't speak to the rest, but military personnel who arrive via
military transport typically don't need passports.  I've been all over
the place and haven't had a passport since I was a kid.  However, many
places will require a passport if you are travelling via civilian
transportation (crossing borders in cars, trains, planes, etc.).
However, there are also exceptions to this -- I don't believe U.S.
military personnel travelling under orders require passports in NATO
countries -- military orders and a military ID card substitute for a
passport/visa.

--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 16:47:56 GMT
From: "Simon E. Booth" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Will NASA's Mars Observer Image the Face on Mars?
Newsgroups: sci.space

Or will it see something that it wasn't supposed to see and suffer the
same fate as the Soviet Phobos 2 probe in 1989?.....

I saw this on the Fox network show 'Sightings' (credibility factor now
plummets!) and the Soviet scientists insist that the last photo the
probe took was of a huge UFO in orbit around Mars, a UFO (get this)
25 km across- now that makes it as big as one of the Martian moons,
so wouldn't it have been visible in telescopics obsvervations from Earth?

(anyone see any Men In Black hanging around the JPL control room...)


and then of course there's the STS-48 UFO story- I wonder if McElwaine
has gone professional......

:-)

Simon

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Date: Fri, 7 May 1993 18:34:49 GMT
From: Dave Stephenson <[e-mail]>
Subject: Will NASA's Mars Observer Image the Face on Mars?
Newsgroups: sci.space

[e-mail] (Simon E. Booth) writes:

>Or will it see something that it wasn't supposed to see and suffer the
>same fate as the Soviet Phobos 2 probe in 1989?.....

>I saw this on the Fox network show 'Sightings' (credibility factor now
>plummets!) and the Soviet scientists insist that the last photo the
>probe took was of a huge UFO in orbit around Mars, a UFO (get this)
>25 km across- now that makes it as big as one of the Martian moons,
>so wouldn't it have been visible in telescopics obsvervations from Earth?

>(anyone see any Men In Black hanging around the JPL control room...)

Well if you are that paranoic, remember back when Voyager 2 went
past Saturn. Suddenly the camera stops, there is a blank bit, and
then more pictures of the outer moons, and all went well all the way
to Neptune. Stuck camera platform they said, but we know the CIA/NSA
in action. Why did NASA get funding for SETI, Why did Regan shortly
afterward start 'Star Wars' which is making great interplanetary
warfare weapons, but pretty useless for shooting down missiles.
What did they see on the way past Saturn that has never been published????????

Beat that Macilwane!


--
Dave Stephenson
Geological Survey of Canada
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada              *Om Mani Padme Hum 1-2-3*
Internet: [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 7 May 93 08:34:30 CDT
From: Bret Wingert <[e-mail]>

Newsgroups: sci.space
Subject: Re: Level 5?
Organization: IBM, Federal Systems Co. Software Services
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In <[e-mail]> Greg Stewart-Nicholls writes:
>  I was being a little facetious. We _have_ well defined processes,
>metrics, reiterations etc. and still can't reliably predict development
>cycles.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>

Our process allows us to predict development cycles and reliability.
This is what makes a good process: repeatability and reliability.
You are correct that a some programs succeed without formal processes
but they have informal ones.
We believe that in order to consistently produce high-quality software
on time and within budget you must have a repeatable process that is
accepted and used by your development team.  Additionally, your customers
must be sold on the benefits to them of a Level 5 process.

Bret Wingert
[e-mail]

(713)-282-7534
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